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Post by Mike Randall- Braves on Mar 3, 2017 6:32:30 GMT
While I am all for having a minor league draft I feel we wasted a ton of time "policing". It makes no sense to draft players that will immediately be dropped back into the free agent pool when we have options for better players with higher upside we cant draft due to "rookie eligibility".
I am proposing that next year we be able to take those players during major league draft. With that said I am all for the minors draft being just that. However, it makes no sense to take a player like Greg Garcia or Daniel Nava when we have players such as Peter OBrien and Alex Meyer that we cant touch. It is each teams responsibility to field a team and have active players on it. If the owner feels he can do this and grab talent then why stop them. There is no extra work needed to be done to make this change other than relax on a rule that seemed fine for year one of our league, but as it continues to develop seems antiquated with the way our intent to build this league goes.
Whether it is a vote or discussion I'm sure I am not the only one that feels this way.
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Post by Andy Germani on Mar 3, 2017 13:48:12 GMT
No issues with it here.
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Post by Paul Hartman on Mar 3, 2017 13:57:55 GMT
I do kind of agree... here are my thoughts the other way though 1. We had our minor league draft..... if news comes out after it that a guy like O'Brien (who wasn't drafted) is going to be the Royals starting DH, I feel (felt) like everyone should have an opportunity to go for him using FAAB. To me, that's fairer than him going to whoever happens to be on the clock when the news comes out. 2. It gets murky as far as everyone having regular active players in their lineup because there just aren't enough to go around (some teams have two 1B for example). Enforcing the active lineup rule SUCKS because there's sometimes nothing that can be done. Not having a full bench to start with at least major league players on it will only make it worse. Who is going to stop someone from drafting 5 minors out of 9 on their bench then? Nobody. This is just my "commish"-worry coming through but I see it as a way (and some will like to stretch rules) for a rebuilding team to load up on extra prospects without the intention of even trying to be competitive. It would be nice I didn't have to start enforcing the competitive clause in week one 3. At this point in the draft, I really wish we could draft those players because they're frankly a lot better and it would save backing up the draft a dozen times. But, I also feel that there's value now on the waiver wire which makes the opening FAAB a little more exciting. That's a perk too. So those are my three reasons opposed. Maybe neither of them are enough on their own. Maybe combined even ha. But, it explains the thought process and what I think we might lose if we change. Let's continue the discussion. We can vote for it too if the group wants. There's certainly advantages to both sides, but to me, there are clear disadvantages either way too. The way we do it now is just a "minor" inconvenience during draft time. (haha)
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Post by Andy Germani on Mar 3, 2017 14:16:49 GMT
I do kind of agree... here are my thoughts the other way though 1. We had our minor league draft..... if news comes out after it that a guy like O'Brien (who wasn't drafted) is going to be the Royals starting DH, I feel (felt) like everyone should have an opportunity to go for him using FAAB. To me, that's fairer than him going to whoever happens to be on the clock when the news comes out. 2. It gets murky as far as everyone having regular active players in their lineup because there just aren't enough to go around (some teams have two 1B for example). Enforcing the active lineup rule SUCKS because there's sometimes nothing that can be done. Not having a full bench to start with at least major league players on it will only make it worse. Who is going to stop someone from drafting 5 minors out of 9 on their bench then? Nobody. This is just my "commish"-worry coming through but I see it as a way (and some will like to stretch rules) for a rebuilding team to load up on extra prospects without the intention of even trying to be competitive. It would be nice I didn't have to start enforcing the competitive clause in week one 3. At this point in the draft, I really wish we could draft those players because they're frankly a lot better and it would save backing up the draft a dozen times. But, I also feel that there's value now on the waiver wire which makes the opening FAAB a little more exciting. That's a perk too. So those are my three reasons opposed. Maybe neither of them are enough on their own. Maybe combined even ha. But, it explains the thought process and what I think we might lose if we change. Let's continue the discussion. We can vote for it too if the group wants. There's certainly advantages to both sides, but to me, there are clear disadvantages either way too. The way we do it now is just a "minor" inconvenience during draft time. (haha) All understandable reasons. With the first point that is just the luck of the slow draft. If Papelbon signed with the Nationals today and they said he was the closer someone just got an 11th round steal because they happened to be up. The second point I completely understand. But the way I look at it is the teams that would have drafted 6 minors for the bench are most likely going to just trade guys to get more minors or just drop the guys they didnt really want for the minors guys and get them anyway. I was thinking this to myself the other day, and this might only be for the rest of this draft if we change the rule. If an illegal player is picked instead of backing up the draft to that pick, do what we did with the Dodgers where after like 15 picks we realized the illegal player and he got his pick of whoever was left. For example Braves takes an illegal player and theres 3 auto picks after him. Instead of undoing the draft to his pick he can say a player in the chat or in an email and we can manually add/drop the players. In some cases this could save us hours.
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